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Steven
Soderbergh: King of the Hill
Introspective and intellectual in the European sense of the word,
here is one filmmaker who easily crosses back and forth from independent
film to studio blockbuster.
San Jose Metro. Jan. 19, 1993
By Jordan Elgrably
In and out of analysis for years, Steven Soderbergh has a gloominess
about him that somehow manages to be cheerful. For those who admired
his first film, "sex, lies, and videotape," this kind
of introspection is unlikely to be surprising. During a recent
interview in downtown L.A., where he was busy shooting "The
Quiet Room" for Showtime, Soderbergh took a little time to
discuss his new film and reminisce on the past.
Though he's only 30 now, the Louisiana native possesses the seriousness
of an older man. It makes you wonder. Usually by the time a director
has made his first three films both his critics and audience figure
they can see where he's headed; that is, whether he's going to
make pretty much the same film over and over again, perfecting
it till he gets it right (and retaining much of his original audience
in the process), or changing genre and narrative conceit each
time out, in such a way as to lose his audience with each new
picture.
After "sex, lies" it would appear that Soderbergh, on
the surface at any rate, purposefully moved away from his original
territory of tangled relationships in an intimate format. This
was bold both artistically and commercially, particularly when
you see that the film, made for only 1.2 million, went on to gross
more than 100 million dollars in worldwide box office receipts,
not to mention grabbing the Palme d'Or at Cannes and an Oscar
nomination for Best Screenplay. With "Kafka," scripted
by Lem Dobbs, Soderbergh shot mostly in black and white in Praguevery
foreign territory after working at home in Baton Rouge with an
ensemble cast and a script based on his own experiences.
Now, with "King of the Hill," Soderbergh takes new risks
much the way Francis Coppola did early on. Set during the Depression
in St. Louis and based on the memoirs of A.E. Hotchner, a writer
best known for his biography of Hemingway, "King" is
about as far from the territory of the sex wars as could be, tracing
as it does a summer in the life of Aaron Kurlander, a 12-year-old
boy hampered by hunger and the dissolution of his family. Soderbergh's
early production notes for "King" indicate that, "in
the tradition of Mark Twain, the young hero uses the audacity
and cunning of a child for the grown-up task of survival."
He adds now, "I wanted this to have some of the feeling of
François Truffaut, some of the feeling of Vittorio de Sica.
I just didn't want it to be sentimental."
Whether or not "King" is meant to be Soderbergh's "The
Four Hundred Blows" or "The Bicycle Thief," it
works as an off-kilter period piece. The Kurlanders live in a
transient hotel inhabited by strange characters à la "Barton
Fink." Poverty forces the family to ship Aaron's kid brother
off to stay with distant relatives, while his mother enters a
nearby sanitarium to recuperate from a bout of tuberculosis. When
Aaron's father, an out of work salesman, accepts a job in a neighboring
state, Aaron is left to spend much of the summer fending for himself.
Kurlander père is played by Jeroen Krabbe, the versatile
and usually compelling Dutch actor who also had a part in "Kafka."
Aaron's mother is played by Lisa Eichhorn; like Krabbe she does
more than an adequate job, but since this movie is really not
about the adults, they most often remain background figures, while
the children and adolescents seem to inhabit a world of their
own imagining (in this light Spalding Gray's turn as the morose
Mr. Mungo, a once-wealthy eccentric down on his luck, puts one
in mind of a Lewis Carroll landscape). The boy serving as Soderbergh's
alter ego is Jesse Bradford, who was in fact the very first kid
to read for the part during a three-week casting which scoured
the United States. Bradford was always Soderbergh's first choice,
he says, in part because he is able to express a range of emotions
that include ambiguity. This was important to Soderbergh because
he wanted "King" to be "emotionally satisfying,
and yet not neccesarily have a happy ending." [emphasis
Soderbergh's]
"I couldn't have made 'King' unless I'd done Kafka first,"
Soderbergh muses, "and I really did want to do something
radically different from my first film." Frustrated by attempts
to write a new narrative around relationships in the '90s, Soderbergh
completely abandoned the half-dozen screenplays he wrote previous
to "sex, lies" (which he penned in less than two weeks
during the winter of '87) and went forward with projects that
make it difficult to predict the arch of his career. "King,"
however, takes great pains to transport the viewer to Depression
reality. With cinematographer Elliot Davis, Soderbergh studied
the paintings of Edward Hopper, "mostly because of the palette
and colors," he says, yet he avoided looking at other films
of the period, with the exception of "The Grapes of Wrath."
For someone born in 1963, Soderbergh seems unusually comfortable
with the past, whether he's working in the 1920s of "Kafka,"
the '30s of "King" or in the early '50s of "The
Quiet Room," a half-hour episode for Showtime's "Fallen
Angels" mini-series. Of "King," which takes place
in 1933, Soderbergh says he culled most of his information from
Hotchner's book rather than read Southern literature of the era.
Also, he asserts, "I had a real sense for that time, because
my father grew up then and has written books on the music from
that period. I love the aesthetic, I love the clothes and the
buildings; there's a different way of behaving that's much more...repressed."
It is a word that comes up often in conversation with Soderbergh,
and one would hazard to guess he derives some strength from his
inability to recognize his own ecstatic experiences. "I have
real trouble living in the present," he confesses. "I'm
either constantly revisiting the past or conjuring the future,
and I have a real problem saying 'right now I feel this.' Part
of my problem is I tend to martyr myself out of having a good
time, and so it's only in retrospect that I've realized I ought
to have enjoyed a lot of things that have happened to me,"
he adds.
In fact, it is when you get him to speak of his repressed feelings
that Soderbergh perhaps best understands his own work. "If
you look at the movies I've made, they often have to do with people
who are sort of emotionally cut off from their immediate reactions
to situations. 'sex, lies' was completely about a guy who's obsessed
with the past, who feels he cannot move forward until he closes
this chapter to his life, but is very cut off from how he feels,
or even why he feels cut off. 'Kafka' is about a person who is
completely confused about everything, and 'King of the Hill' is
about a kid who doesn't feel connected to his parents...
"Talking to my father, I discovered I was a taciturn sort
of youth, distant and uncomfortable with what was going on around
me. That's why I felt I knew [Aaron]. I think I was always the
kind of boy that was either out of the house, visiting somebody
else's house, or in my room a lot. I never brought anybody to
my house. So very early on I'd established a sort of world I had
constructed for myself."
Soderbergh is one of a very few American originals who have come
to light in recent years, but unlike Gus Van Sant, Spike Lee or
Hal Hartley, his choices appear ambiguous. If "sex, lies"
reflected the emotional numbness and skewed sexuality of the decade
in which it was made, "Kafka" was anything but a return
to autobiographical filmmaking, finding its center more in the
allegory of Kafka's alienation than the director's personal ennui.
In Van Sant you recognize marginal America in the withdrawal symptoms
of "Drugstore Cowboy" and the grunge culture of "My
Own Private Idaho"; in all of Spike Lee's work there is the
black man's outrage at an unjust, hostile white society; and in
Hal Hartley's "Truth" or "Simple Men," there
is the end of innocence in suburban America. But where do we find
Soderbergh's emotional core?
Speaking of his dysfunctionality, the director admits that even
today, after all his achievements, including his life with wife
Betsy Brantley and their 3-year-old daughter Sarah (the Soderberghs
live on a 40-acre farm in Somerset, Virginia, 3,000 miles from
Hollywood), it's still hard for him to have a good time, to live
life in the moment. When in analysis, he says, "I wonder:
how do I get rid of the feeling that everything inevitably turns
to shit? Is there anyway to combat that? Why do I feel this way?"
One of six brothers and sisters, Soderbergh's parents were lapsed
Catholics, and though he never received any religious instruction,
it's clear a Judeo-Christian sense of guilt is very much part
of his upbringing. Soderbergh's journal entries while making "sex,
lies" give some indication of his feelings about sexual betrayal
and sexual repression. He writes, "I hate directing sex scenes,
I decided. It makes me uncomfortable to ask people to do such
intimate things. I feel like turning away." During our interview
he admitted he is "the most interior of the people in my
family. When you write, that sort of forces you to be [introverted].
I live a lot of my life in my head, which can often cause problems
for people around me, because they don't know what's going on."
Asked what are the most important, even urgent issues in his life,
Soderbergh broods for a moment, then glances solemnly at his interlocutor.
"I don't feel like I've created anything right now that I
truly think is 'great art'. I would like to do that but I don't
feel like it's going to happen next year. But I would like to
accomplish something."
Soderbergh's next project, a studio film he's developing with
Sydney Pollock for Universal Pictures, is a comedy no less, about
the formation of the National Football League. Set in 1926 and
written by two guys who work for Sports Illustrated, it promises
to be as unpredictable as anything else he's done, yet Soderbergh
remembers his auspicious beginnings, making independent film on
a shoestring, and it seems to be the way back to the kind of personal
film his original admirers long for.
"An idea occured to me just a few weeks ago, much in the
way 'sex, lies' occured to me. I've been making notes for it and
I'm going to sit down and write it this summer. It's actually
going to be a hybrid of 'sex, lies' and the kind of more allegorical
storytelling, as you say, of 'Kakfa.' I'm really excited about
it. As I envision it now it's about duality, about how one reconciles
very conflicting impulses, and I've figured out a way to do that
which isn't literal. I think I can make it cheaply, and it will
definitely be an independent film."
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